Its clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both confessions that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for Shanann Watts. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Similar to C&S relationship. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. Why kill them? ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. Married 5 years and 9 months. Shanann "I've cried myself to sleep over a week now. When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. Chris is an introvert. I . It was clear from the messages that Shanann's marriage was in crisis, Chris was at best apathetic about the new baby, the couple had serious financial problems, and Shanann had begun to suspect Chris was cheating on her. At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. You feel like youre expendable. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? At all. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. Why was their marriage not going well? The Watts Family Murders became a talk of many talks and news shows; episodes of ABC News television news magazine 20/20, American talk show Dr. Phil, and The Dr. Oz Show featured the story of the massacre. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. Due to financial reasons, Wyndham Hill Master Association Inc., Shanann and Chris homeowners association filed a suit against them for a fee of $1,533 in July 2018. I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. Shanann Watts/Netflix/2020. Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. On Nov. 6, Watts pleaded guilty to the nine charges he faced, including five counts of first-degree murder. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. Chris Watts is serving five life sentences plus 48 years in prison without the possibility of parole. Can you imagine her as a single parent? Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. She was desperate when she realized he was done. He has changed. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Shanann went on a business trip to Arizona and returned on August 13, 2018, at about 1:48 in the morning; her friend and colleague Nickole Utoft Atkinson had offered to drop her to her home from the airport. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. in the future. Most mass shootings in the U.S. are also connected to domestic violence. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. He figured Ill get what I want and she has a hard time getting pregnant so it will never happen. He never ever portrayed anything when it came to those poor little girls. Shanann posted videos of family drama embarrassing Chris and his family, posted at least one video saying she is the dominant one in their family, insulted Chris repeatedly saying things like he has no balls and no game, insulting him to his family and to her friends. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. The doc also discusses Shannan's . Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. R.I.P Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico . Or to think everything is good but to learn that it isnt. And her house that everyone is talking about? Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. lts only one way emotions and feelings. There is content out there that confirms not only did Shanann know a split was on the cards, but her own family did too. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. , but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. Yeah, she was a real gem. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. You seem to like the psychopath label. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. Thats so sad. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Days before Chris Watts murdered his wife, she sent chilling texts to a friend. On August 21, Chris was charged with five counts of first-degree murder, an additional one count per child cited as death of a child who had not yet attained 12 years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust, three counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and unlawful termination of a pregnancy. I cant come back like this. The film features the story of the case and stars Sean Kleier and Ashley Williams as Chris Watts and Shanann Watts, respectively. Hes a fucking psychopath. A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. And we know when Shanann returned from Phoenix that night she was still hoping to woo Watts back into the marriage, hence the planned trip to Aspen the following weekend, the love letter, the self-help book and the imminent gender reveal. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. Your mind (even if it constantly runs in the background) will always be consumed with the what-ifs and know that you have this deep desire for something more and when you find someone that is of the same mindset it is really hard to switch gears and go back to what you know isnt cutting it anymore (unfortunately/unfortunate choice of words as I completely respect the sanctity of marriage and strong support SW) but I believe he just got trapped and wanted a quick way out. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? Wake up to the day's most important news. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Chris likes other people calling the shots. People divorce and move on with their lives. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. He knew his new woman wasnt going to stand for him shelling out half his income in child support, no way. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. Shannan's body was . Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. I agree CBH. He has The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Required fields are marked *. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Have a great time.". I like your thoughts too, Holly. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant with the couple's son when Chris strangled her to death in their bedroom. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. "Chris these have been the best years of my life! Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. I just thank God he took the right I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. Watts told Ann Meadows, the realtor, on the morning the disappearance that him and Shanann hadnt gotten on for over a year. Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. He had policies on his kids and wife. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. Online, she projected the image of a happy wife. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. Shanann Watts' First Marriage The opening 10 minutes of American Murder features social media footage of Shanann explaining her life story. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. He comes across as predatory and basic. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. You spoil us with love an attention! I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? It seemed choreographed. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. Not saying that is right or even completely true, I feel that this would have started whether or not SW was out of town for that long. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. He remarried and has kids. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. So why take the children out too? Only he took them out first, because he knew he was going to end her life as soon as she got home. If so, nice of him not to say so. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. Thats his choice, how he prefers it. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. How old was she when she married, how long did it last? Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. Anger, as in a simmering boil. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. Tammy Lee, an investigator in the case, conducted the . Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. He and Shanann began to fight. Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. August 22, 2018 / 3:26 PM / CBS Colorado. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. Think before you speak. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. There was also a good heart there I can see I think because of this drive and a relentless thrusting of her family onto social media, she lost him an essentially reserved guy somewhere along the way. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. I love Chris! she wrote. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. I love Chris! she wrote. She loved dogs and had a dachshund named Dieter. After Shananns death and Chris arrest, Dieter was kept at a friends house and later went to live with her brother, Frankie. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. She would contact CW and NKs employer outing them and she would stir up ANY kind of shit she could even if it would be detrimental to her own children. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. He is also reportedly back in touch with Kessinger, who changed her name after the murders, per Daily Mail. I think she emasculated Chris. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. I think they were married 3-4 years. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. Well, she shouldnt have . Not a popular opinion. What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. Easier said than done, of course. 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